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Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

Jake — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:33:12 -0000

@Bruce: Never fear, this is on my pet project list, so it'll get there eventually, votes or not. I hope.

Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

Bruce Bergman — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:46:14 -0000

Cool-ioness. I've voted for it. Maybe if we get enough people voting for it, we can move it to the Implemented tab. ;-)

Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

Jake — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:40:56 -0000

@Bruce: I've brought this up a few times, but bugs and other projects have passed it in the queue. AppsLab has only 2 developers, so we rely on other teams who want to use Mix for budget to get consultancies like ThoughtWorks involved. This means they have their own agendas as well.

I've added this as an idea for giggles to see how much support it has, and I'll see if I can get it done.

Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

Bruce Bergman — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:22:31 -0000

You NEED to add an "implemented" tab (or "done" or "fixed" or whatever) to Mix. Not just because it's a nice housekeeping thing, but because it SELLS Mix to both the user community and the Oracle management.

It's one thing to point to a cool new tool and say "see, this is pretty neat, and people love it!", but it's quite another to say "look, as a result of Mix ideas, the following suggestions have been implemented and addressed". Both sides of the coin will love hearing stuff like that. It cements Mix as a productive and helpful tool that actually can affect change.

Put it back at the top of the list!

thanks,
bruce

Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

JustinKestelyn — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:18:42 -0000

To be fair, proponents of this idea have been clamoring for it via Oracle Discussion Forums for at least a year (with Kuassi's and my participation). So although Mix was a big help, I'd argue that the community has had a voice on this issue for a long while.

Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

Jake — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:27:46 -0000

@Tim: Good point, the case w/Macs is a bit of an anomaly because I think Kuassi has heard these comments over and over for quite some time.

In general, you could make a case that SIGs and councils represent a passionate minority of customers that Mix actually helps to balance by giving more people a voice.

In the end, it's up to product management to make the release scope decisions based on all the input. Mix just adds another channel for I/O.

@Dan: Believe it or not, there's already an idea out there for implemented ideas. We talked about adding a tab for them, but it's slipped way down the list. We don't have that many non-Mix ideas implemented, but I hope that changes, pushing the implemented ideas idea back up the list.

Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

Dan Norris — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:19:09 -0000

BTW, it's totally awesome that PMs (or at least some PMs) are participating in the community and responding directly to lots of users instead of the few they could touch pre-Mix. Go Mix Go!

Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

Dan Norris — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:17:41 -0000

Seems like there should be some sort of big sledgehammer or checkmark or some such icon indicating which ideas have been implemented and are essentially "off the list". Guess it's time to submit a Mix Idea about ideas :). Maybe even another tab for ideas that were put into service or some such thing.

Re: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition

Tim Hall — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:00:23 -0000

Hi.

I think it's great how Mix has given customers another way to voice their opinions.

What worries me is most folks don't get involved, so there is a danger that passionate minority opinions are affecting the road map for the majority.

I guess this is just like politics, so if people don't like it they've got to get involved. :)

Cheers

Tim...

PS. This comment is not aimed at Apple, so don't flame me. :)