Oracle AppsLab - Latest Comments in Rocky Mountain, Hi

Re: Rocky Mountain, Hi

Jake — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:17:32 -0000

@Justin: Google and Salesforce have advanced the ASP model. By your definition, SFDC is an enterprise app for business-critical data, and it's outsourced and managed in the cloud. Google Apps can handle enterprise data from SFDC, so even by a narrow definition, these are enterprise apps.

I don't think (and didn't say) Google would kill MSFT. They're very smart to pitch themselves as complimentary and not competitive with the Office business. MSFT recognizes the threat though, and so should all enterprise software companies.

I concede your point that some businesses will never go into the cloud. For them, Google can go with on-premise appliances like the Mini and GSA.

Re: Rocky Mountain, Hi

JustinKestelyn — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:56:57 -0000

Just to get definitions straight: If the app doesn't involve enterprise data, it's not an enterprise app.

We learned a lesson years back when the concept of a hosted business intelligence apps/DWs emerged (remember "ASPs"?): Enterprises simply do not want to outsource management of business-critical data.

Can Google potentially kill MSFT's Office business someday (OpenOffice hasn't yet)? Sure. But that's not "enterprise computing" IMO.

Re: Rocky Mountain, Hi

Jake — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:05:37 -0000

@Dennis: While the finer points differ, Justin and Ameed don't see Google pushing into the enterprise, so they share the view you and Josh espouse.

I've blogged the opposite opinion, and I still hold it. I'm curious to expand the discussion with Ameed and Justin in person. I will be sure to blog or tweet you the results.

Re: Rocky Mountain, Hi

dahowlett — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:24:05 -0000

Would love to see the feedback on whatever ammunition you think Josh and I are giving you folks.

Re: Rocky Mountain, Hi

Jake — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:13:27 -0000

@Floyd: Not if I see you first.

Re: Rocky Mountain, Hi

Floyd — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:54:59 -0000

See you at the ACE dinner!