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Re: Mix Updates

dannorris — Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:21 -0000

Yeah, it was sort of a let-down when my vote count got slashed back down to the "real" count. Oh well, I'm still a card-carrying Friend o' the 'lab, no hard feelings.

I don't see the "see who voted" feature you mentioned. I know it's just for my own session. Where would I see the voter list?

Re: Just Add Enterprise

jkuramot — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:28:44 -0000

So you do "however" agree with me :) Oddly put.

Communities have different goals. Business is a community. Facebook is a community. I'm reading that as exactly agreeing with me.

However, I agree with you.

Re: Just Add Enterprise

Meg Bear — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:04:25 -0000

Jake, Totally get your point and completely agree.

I do think, however, figuring out how to harness the value of web2.0 inside a business, to the benefit of corporate objectives is goodness and does warrant articulation, focus and [gasp] strategy. I'm not talking about how to get IM clients to an entire workforce or how to control tag entries against a "blacklist" of inappropriate language. I'm talking about a strategic focus on how to break down organizational barriers when they get in the way of innovation, communication, ideation, etc. etc.

In addition I'm talking about aligning this community around the goals of the business so that all this community-goodness is channelled to the best strategic benefit of the company. Now that is something that I can get behind, and I don't care what you call it!

Re: Just Add Enterprise

jkuramot — Tue, 13 May 2008 14:24:42 -0000

Sure, I get what Web 2.0 can do in an enterprise. But there's no real reason to make this grandiose distinction between Web 2.0 in/outside the firewall.

You mention "standards" and "knowledge bases" which are corporate buzzwords, so doesn't Web 2.0 already have those already? Or at least they're already moving that way? RESTful APIs, OpenSocial, Data Portability aren't official standards, but supporting them allows you to do more. Flickr, Box.net, Google Apps are all non-traditional knowledge bases.

By calling something Enterprise 2.0, the implication is that it's not Web 2.0. Most E 2.0 really is Web 2.0 with a spin. However, the risk I see is companies building convoluted software and apps for enterprises that lose the social benefits of Web 2.0.

Re: Just Add Enterprise

Chris Rowell — Tue, 13 May 2008 05:48:15 -0000

I would think Enterprise 2.0 would be about delivering and integrating the usefulness of Web 2.0 into your business. Yes, that would mean single-sign-on, but it would also mean connecting it into your CRM or your development environment, figuring out how to use the technology for your business and then doing it (both technically and in practice).

So how exactly do you use it in supply chain management or marketing or product development and is there anything additional to be created to make it work?

For newsletters, can you create articles, review them (most likely using blogs and comments, but probably also setting publish switches and perhaps completion status) and then select the ones you want to publish, select the target audience and have it automatically go out in the corporate-approved format. The answer is surely yes, but also requires additional things to be coded and customized for your business.

I think about those standards imposed by the business, about the desire to integrate with "knowledge bases" (CRM system, or shared file system or whatever) and simply see an alternate set of uses. Maybe that's not radically different, but it is likely something a company would pay extra for that a typical web user probably wouldn't care too much about.

Just a thought.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

jkuramot — Mon, 12 May 2008 14:15:19 -0000

Yeah, I haven't had a lot of success with either push or pull, but I haven't really spent much time testing. Kind of just hoping it will work out when they go public beta.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

dberkholz — Mon, 12 May 2008 06:49:01 -0000

Hmm. I can push to FE from BK, but BK doesn't seem to pull from FE (which is actually the direction I'd like best). I did find a sweet app for my BlackBerry called FindMe, which does automatic location updates through a FaceBook app. I also installed another BlackBerry app called LightPole beta, which seems pretty neat. No automation, but can find cool stuff near me.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

jkuramot — Mon, 12 May 2008 00:47:19 -0000

On its way by email, don't expect much from the Brighkite-FE app. I've yet to get it working at all. Definitely let me know if you have any success.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

dberkholz — Sun, 11 May 2008 18:09:20 -0000

I'd love a Fire Eagle invite if you have any left. I just signed up for BrightKite, and I want to play with the interaction between them.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

jkuramot — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:58:39 -0000

@shishir: Sent you one via dm.
@S Venkataramanan/Paul/Patrick: Sending via email.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

Patrick Lord - MobiLuck — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:31:45 -0000

I'd love a fire eagle invite please!!! Patrick Lord, MobiLuck

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

topperge — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:54:48 -0000

I've got a couple brightkite invites left too if anyone needs them. Just email or tweet me.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

Paul Dunbar — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:37:09 -0000

I'd love one - very curious about this service. Hoping that something can be done between FireEagle and my treo for location sensing, too!

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

S. Venkataramanan — Fri, 09 May 2008 11:23:24 -0000

Yes, posting a comment for an invite.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

shishir — Fri, 09 May 2008 08:13:59 -0000

This one too. please :)

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

shishir — Fri, 09 May 2008 08:10:42 -0000

One for me too.
TIA :)

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

jkuramot — Fri, 09 May 2008 06:31:48 -0000

@talboito: On its way, only 15 remain now.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

talboito — Fri, 09 May 2008 06:06:12 -0000

I'd be sure interested in an invite.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

manalang — Fri, 09 May 2008 05:06:03 -0000

I have 3

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

jkuramot — Fri, 09 May 2008 04:48:28 -0000

@Eddie: Will send one of each. May need you (and Rich) to help propagate Brightkite invites, as I only have 2 moar :( Or just ask Twitter, like I did.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

jkuramot — Fri, 09 May 2008 04:12:54 -0000

Right you are, I did miss Paul's tweet. 17 to go now.

Worth noting that Firebot is down now, which is a bummer. I've tweeted at the dude who works on it, in his spare time I assume :)

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

eddieawad — Fri, 09 May 2008 04:12:54 -0000

Hey, what about me? I'd appreciate a fireeagle and a Brightkite invite if can givz. Thx.

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

dannorris — Fri, 09 May 2008 04:09:49 -0000

@Jake you might have missed @ppedrazzi tweeted his request to you before me

Re: Pour Some Gas on the Fire (Eagle)

jkuramot — Fri, 09 May 2008 03:50:25 -0000

will dm one to each of you . . . 18 to go

Re: Suggest a Session is a Hit

manalang — Fri, 09 May 2008 03:43:02 -0000

We do sort by "last voted on", sort off. In the OOW group, the default sort
order is "Recently Active." That surfaces an entry if anything was done to
it (i.e., edited, voted on, or commented on). But, you're right, we need to
align all of these views to be more consistent.

Rich