Oracle AppsLab - Latest Comments in Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Jake — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:05:03 -0000

I think it's Full Text Feed.
http://cavemonkey50.com/code/full-feed/

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

John — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:10:37 -0000

Hi Jake,

"Rich will be installing a WP plugin to handle syndication of full feeds and truncated posts on the main page"

What plugin are you using to produce full feeds and truncated posts on the main page?

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Jake — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:59:00 -0000

Rob: You should be getting full feeds now.

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Rob Dawson — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:22:41 -0000

full feeds please

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Matt Kummell — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:08:28 -0000

thanks guys very happy with the no more (more...)!

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Jake — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:17:19 -0000

Peter: According to that little Reader Easter Egg floating around yesterday, we have 87 subscribers using Reader. I'm sure there are other using other feed readers, too, and this plugin (if we ever get it installed) will let us do both. Win-win is good.

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Paul — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:04:10 -0000

Thanks for asking, listening and then acting Jake!
Great trifecta. Wish more people would do all three if they are going to do any at all.

Politicians especially;-)

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Adam Carson — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:41:14 -0000

full feed PLEASE...i like the appslab page, but i would rather not leave my reader.

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Jake — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:02:57 -0000

An update: Rich will be installing a WP plugin to handle syndication of full feeds and truncated posts on the main page, similar to what Eddie suggests. We're not able to FTP to our host now, so it might be a few days.

The people have spoken.

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Meg — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:50:04 -0000

no need to apologize for being busy Jake, I took it as a gift to allow me to catch up on past articles that I was falling behind on reading.

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

John — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:47:55 -0000

Vote against "more". I would like to full feed in the reader.

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Jay — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:17:26 -0000

>> the issue at hand here is whether we should publish the full post on the main page or not.

Full feed please.
Is there no way to have what you want on the home page but give full feed?

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Colin Charles — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:35:46 -0000

Please, please, publish full feeds.

If you want to keep the web page more "active", just publish an excerpt on the web page, and truncate it at say 1000 characters. But let the RSS feed itself, be a full feed. It only takes a tiny amount of hacking to do this, and a good example of "truncation" in action are:

* http://www.planet-php.net/ (look for the "Truncated by planet PHP". This could be implemented better as the RSS feed is also truncated :()
* http://www.planetmysql.org/ (look for the "read more" on the Web, but then realise that the RSS feed is the complete full feed)

So I'd say Planet MySQL got it right at the moment. If you visit the website, you only get fresh content, all truncated and so on. If you grab the RSS feed, you get it all, no "more" link...

I for one use Liferea or Google Reader to read the AppsLab blog, and if I'm offline, go on missing articles that I could have enjoyed.

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Paul — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:17:30 -0000

Likewise, I use a feed reader and hate having to click-thru to get full content (and rarely do...)..

Jeremiah's suggestion sounds perfect; it recognises that using a feed reader and coming to the home page are two very different experiences, and it is articifically restrictive to try and do "one size fits all".

It would also be good if you can clean up the "archives" concept at the same time. Love the tag cloud, top posts etc ... but I rarely use them. Most of the time when I come to your home page I want to just see your chronological list of posts. What month is irrelevant. Just current, old, older, oldest... its a continuum.

Re: Decision 07: (more…) vs. More

Jeremiah — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:02:02 -0000

I dislike having to click more in a feed (and usually won't), but I understand its usefulness with respect to a blog home page. Fortunately, WordPress has a nice solution: the_excerpt();

For each post, you can add an excerpt that summarizes the post. On the home template, call the_excerpt(); instead of the_content();

You'll have to take the time when posting to add an excerpt, but it keeps the front page tidy while not annoying your feed readers. Some WordPress users use the_excerpt for the top portion of their posts and then call both functions in their templates so that they don't duplicate data. Just be sure to modify your feed-rss2.php, feed-atom.php files in /wp-includes if you do that.